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"That Saunders Woman"
Original NBC Broadcast - 30 March 1966
Executive Producer Norman MacDonnell
Produced by Joel Rogosin
Teleplay by Don Brinkley / Story by Edward DeBlasio
Directed by William Hale
(shown in the ride in)
Lee J. Cobb as Judge Henry Garth (Lee J. Cobb had left the show but was still on the ride-in)
Doug McClure as Trampas (not in this episode)
Clu Gulager as Emmett Ryker
Randy Boone as Randy Benton (not in this episode)
Diane Roter as Jennifer Sommers
James Drury as The Virginian
Sheree North [Della Saunders]
Ending Credits (incomplete):
Liam Sullivan as John Ballinger
Stuart Anderson as Billy Conklin
Douglas Henderson as Jenkins
Stephen Roberts as Alfred Krebs
Tol Avery as Willard Arlington Rutledge
Stuart Randall as Judge Franklin
Victoria Albright as Diane Ballinger
Gail Bonney as Mrs. Henderson
Associate Producer James Duff MacAdams
Theme by Percy Faith
Director of photography Benjamin H. Kline A.S.C.
Art director ... Henry Larrecq
Film Editor ... Tony Martinelli, A.C.E.
Unit manager ... Ben Bishop
Assistant director ... Frank Losee
Set decorators ... John McCarthy and John M. Dwyer
Sound ... Earl Crain, Jr.
Color consultant ... Robert Brower
Color by TECHNICOLOR
Other credits not currently available
Series regular characters appearing in this episode:
The Virginian, Ryker (as Sheriff) and Jennifer
A stagecoach rumbles into Medicine Bow. The Virginian is waiting for it.
He's looking for Sam Jenkins, who sold Shiloh some diseased cattle. When
the coach stops, Jenkins disembarks, followed by another passenger, Della
Saunders. Jenkins drunkenly tries to get Della to join him for a drink
in the saloon, but Della wants no part of him and politely tries to put him
off. When he goes so far as to grab her suitcase, the Virginian comes to
the rescue and tells him firmly, "The lady said PLEASE, Jenkins!" Jenkins
responds by hitting him with Della's suitcase. He's no match for the
Virginian and is quickly dispatched. As the Virginian returns Della's bag
to her, Jenkins goes for his gun. He's stopped by businessman Alfred Krebs,
who tells him to "go sleep it off" and apologizes to Della for Jenkins' behavior.
As Jenkins is walking away, the Virginian stops him and tells him he owes
Shiloh $8000. Jenkins insists the cattle were healthy at the time he sold
them and defiantly tells the Virginian to "take him to court." "I might just
do that!" snarls the foreman. Meanwhile, Krebs tells Della that he's certain
he's met her somewhere before. He rattles off the names of various towns,
but she doesn't respond. Anxious to get away from him, she spots the Virginian
and asks him to walk her over to the stables. After she walks away, Krebs
suddenly remembers her name. "Della Saunders!" he says to himself.
On their way to the stables, Della stops by an empty storefront and tells the
Virginian she has rented it and is going to set up a dress shop. Meanwhile,
attorney John Ballinger watches them intently from his office window. After
leaving Della, the Virginian walks over to Ballinger's office to inquire
about engaging his services to file suit against Jenkins for selling Shiloh
the diseased cattle. Ballinger agrees to take on the case. As it so happens
, Ballinger is also the person who rented the shop to Della, but he tells the
Virginian that the transaction was conducted through the mail and he has
never met her.
Later in the saloon, Jenkins is sitting by himself drinking away. Sheriff
Ryker walks up to him and tells him he heard about the skirmish at the stage
depot and would appreciate it if he would settle his misunderstandings a
little less publicly. Krebs happens to be standing at the bar and stops Ryker
on his way out. He gives the sheriff a generous check for a children's drive
for which Ryker is currently soliciting contributions. Ryker thanks him and
exits. After the sheriff leaves, Krebs joins Jenkins at his table.
Apparently the two have been working together on crooked cattle deals.
Krebs admonishes Jenkins for being "stupid" and "lazy" in selling the diseased
animals locally. He knows about the Virginian hiring Ballinger to take Jenkins
to court, but since Jenkins' name alone is on the signed contract, he's in
it by himself. However, Krebs might be able to "persuade" Ballinger to drop
the case if Jenkins "invests" more money and does his bidding. Although
Jenkins dislikes Krebs intensely, he knows he has him over a barrel and
Later that evening, Della calls on John Ballinger at his home. She's greeted
by his teenaged daughter, Diane. When John sees who it is, he quickly sends
Diane out of the room. Della has dropped by to thank John for his assistance
in helping her settle in Medicine Bow and rent the empty shop. From their
conversation we learn that they met long ago but haven't seen each other for
twelve years. "From the postmarks on your letters, you've done a lot of
traveling," she remarks. "That's all I did for a long while," he says, "Now,
I've tried to make a home for Diane and a brand new career, a new life..."
"Of course," she says, "And I'm sorry to add to your responsibilities. I seem
to have a knack for doing that." "Della, the past is dead and buried!" he
says. "Not completely," she responds, "It has a nasty way of springing to
life at the worst moments. I'm sorry, John. I won't bother you again."
"Della, wait!" he says, "I just didn't want you to misunderstand my motives!"
Della sighs and says, "I thought about you for a long time in prison and I
hated you for helping to put me there." Gazing off into the distance, John
says, "I saw you sitting there in that courtroom day after day. I heard
the things they said about you, the tears on your cheeks and you wouldn't
bend to wipe them away!" Looking at her, he adds, " I wanted to send for you!"
"I know," she says, "I forgave you a long time ago. I realized that it was
me, my life that made things happen. I just hated myself for what I'd been.
I forgave you, but it's harder to forgive myself!"
A few days later, Jennifer comes into town to see about getting a dress made
at Della's new shop. She drops by to see if her friend, Diane Ballinger,
wants to join her. Diane has a strange feeling about Della and doesn't want
to go. She instinctively doesn't like her. She's suspicious of the fact that
her father said he didn't know her, but then she later came to see him at
their home "on business." She tells Jennifer to go there alone, but asks
her to see what she can find out about her. As luck would have it, Jennifer
runs into the Virginian on her way over to Della's dress shop. He personally
takes her over to introduce her. After he leaves, Jennifer can't help but
stare at her while Della is trying to show her different bolts of material.
Jennifer says she's staring because she's "never seen anyone like you in
Medicine Bow before. You're beautiful!" Jennifer finally asks bluntly why
she came to Medicine Bow. Della answers, "There is no dark, mysterious,
romantic reason for my being here. Let's just say--I'm following my star!"
and changes the subject back to dressmaking.
Meanwhile the Virginian has stopped by the sheriff's office to ask Ryker to
look into who Jenkins bought the diseased cattle from and what kind of shape
they were in. "A fellow named Chadwell over in Gillette--at least that's
what it said on the bill of sale," says the foreman, adding that as soon as
he finds out, he can turn the information over to John Ballinger, who can
tell whether or not they've got a case. Ryker agrees to look into it, but
says it will take a couple of days, jokingly adding as a parting shot, "Let
me ask you something...the kind of money you make, how long will it take
you to pay back $8000 to Garth and Starr?"
Jennifer wraps up her business at Della's, thanking her and saying, "I know
the dress will be beautiful!" After she leaves, Della attempts to hang up
a sign outside the shop. Alfred Krebs stops to offer his assistance. While
doing so, he tauntingly says. "Oh yes, it WAS St. Louis! Yes indeed. Some
time ago. Yep, Della Saunders. It all came back to me. Quite a sensation
at the time, as I recall. Now, here you are, safe and sound and free as a
bird--and none happier than me about it, Ma'am, I assure you!" Turning
serious, he tells the nervous Della that he wants to talk to her privately
that night in his hotel room. Finishing up with the sign, he adds loudly,
"Right pretty sign, Miss! I'm sure it will bring you many customers.
And none too soon, why, some of the ladies in this town...!"
Knowing that Krebs must have something on her, Della goes over to the hotel
that evening to meet with him as requested. On her way inside, she's greeted
by the leering hotel clerk, Billy Conklin, who takes note of the fact that
she's going upstairs alone. Once in the room, Krebs "suggests" that Della
persuade John Ballinger not to press the case against Jenkins lest Ballinger
and Della's prior indiscretions be made public. She slaps Krebs and angrily
runs out of his room. Her hasty exit is witnessed first by Jenkins and then
by Conklin, who sneeringly suggests that "if (Krebs) is tired of you, I'm not
tired at all!" He's joined in derisive laughter by several local parasites
sitting on the hotel porch. John Ballinger sees her running away and asks
what's wrong. She tells him of Krebs' blackmail threat and sobs that she "never
should have come here."
Word indeed gets around and we next see a contingent of local ladies converge
on Ryker in his office demanding that Della be run out of town. When Ryker
insists that he can't do anything because she hasn't broken any laws, the women
vow to boycott her shop; "She'll starve before she makes any one of us a dress!"
The word has spread to Shiloh, too. The Virginian stops by the house to take
Jennifer into town for her final dress fitting, but Jennifer refuses to go,
having heard from Diane Ballinger about Della "carrying on" with her father
and "going up to Alfred Krebs' hotel room alone." "So, you're not going to
let her finish your dress?" asks the Virginian disgustedly. "Do you approve
of the things she does?" Jennifer asks. "Well, number one, I don't KNOW what
things she does," replies the foreman, "Number two, it's not up to me to
approve or disapprove. I thought you said she was a good dressmaker."
Jennifer hesitates and answers, "She is." "I also thought you said you
liked her," he continues. "I did," she answers. "Well, it seems to me that
that's a lot more to go on than some third-hand gossip!" says the Virginian,
"I've got the buggy outside and I'm going into town. I might even stop and
see Miss Saunders and find out how she's getting along. If you'd like to
come along, I'd be proud to have you." He gets up to leave and Jennifer stops
him, saying, "Wait! I'll only be a minute."
When Jennifer arrives at Della's shop, she's surprised to find her packing in
preparation for leaving Medicine Bow. "I've heard all the talk," Della admits
and says that it doesn't look like she'll be able to make a go of it here.
She thanks Jennifer for her kindness and says "I wasn't as lucky as you are...
I didn't have people like your uncle or the Virginian to guide me. I had to
learn patience and tolerance the hard way." "What's the hard way?" Jennifer
asks, "Della, please tell me." Della takes a deep breath and tells her that
she was in prison. Shocked, Jennifer says, "Prison? Oh no, I can't believe
that!" "Why not? You believe all those other things. Why not believe the
truth?" Della asks. "Is that what you want me to think of you?" asks Jennifer.
"No, no, of course I don't!" Della says, "At sixteen I started dancing in
saloons and by the time I was eighteen, I was the princess of St. Louis; bold
as brass, accepting gifts and compliments from men as though I were some kind
of goddess, accepting offerings of others, other worshippers. Well, one night
there was this man that followed me home. He wanted to prove to me that I
wasn't a goddess at all; that I was a human being, flesh and blood. I was
combing my hair at the vanity table and I saw his face behind me in the mirror.
There was a struggle and the mirror cracked to the floor, splintered, and he
started choking me, calling me names, vile names, choking me. I picked up a
piece of the mirror, a small sharp fragment, and then I..." Della breaks down
crying and is unable to finish the story. "That's self-defense, isn't it,
Della?" asks Jennifer. "The jury called it murder," Della says softly. "Oh,
Della. I had no idea!" Jennifer says. "Don't run away, Della. You haven't
given yourself a chance. You haven't given us a chance...Please don't run away.
I want you to stay!" Della composes herself and says, "Thank you."
The Virginian drops by John Ballinger's office to pick up the process papers.
The Shiloh foreman wants to serve them on Jenkins "before he gets too drunk
to read them." "No, no papers," says Ballinger, telling him that he's decided
not to press the case; "I've reviewed the facts and I'm not sure you've got that
good a chance of beating Jenkins in court. And besides the whole thing could
cost you nearly as much as you'd stand to collect." "Well, I doubt that!" says
the Virginian, "What's the real reason, John?...Come on, now, a man like you
doesn't back down from a sure thing without a good reason!" "Well, uh, maybe
I'm not qualified to handle the case," Ballinger says. "Are you kidding? My
horse could handle this case without taking his nose out of a feedbag!" says
the Virginian. "When your horse has a license to practice law, then I'll
recommend that you hire him! Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got work to do,"
says Ballinger tersely.
Stunned at this turn of events, the Shiloh foreman goes over to the sheriff's
office to commiserate with Ryker over coffee. "Well, you could get yourself
another lawyer," says Ryker. "Sure I could. John Ballinger's a friend of
mine," says the Virginian, "He's in some kind of trouble over this thing.
Getting another lawyer would help me but not him." Ryker tells him that he
did some routine checking on Della Saunders and found out that she was in
prison for murder. Furthermore, John Ballinger defended her at her trial.
"And lost?" asks the Virginian. "Yeah. Now it strikes me that a woman that's
been in prison, she could come out carrying a pretty big grudge against the
man who lost the case," says Ryker. "You think she's making some kind of
trouble for Ballinger?...What could that have to do with him dropping the
Jenkins case?" asks the foreman. "I don't know," admits Ryker. "What'll we
do?" asks the Virginian. "Well, we'll keep an eye on things and in the
meantime, if you want to stay on top of Jenkins, you'd better do like I said
...get another lawyer" says Ryker, reaching for another cup of coffee.
That night there's a knock at Della's door. To her surprise, it is Jenkins
who says he has come to apologize. He admits that he has a drinking problem.
He says he's "a fool" and just does what Krebs tells him to do. "Watch
out for Krebs, Ma'am! Stay away from him!" he says cryptically. "Yes, I will
after tonight," she says, "I have to go there once more." "I won't trouble
you again," says Jenkins, leaving.
Della walks over to the hotel, passes by Billy Conklin and the townspeople we
saw earlier and goes up to Krebs' room. She finds Krebs dead in his hotel room.
She runs out and again passes Billy, who is now wandering the hall outside
Krebs' room. Conklin sees the open door, finds Krebs' body in the room and yells
for the men downstairs to stop her. "She's a murderer!" he hollers.
The next morning, Della has been arrested for murder and there's a crowd milling
about outside the sheriff's office. Among them is Billy Conklin, who is promoting
lynch talk. We see the Virginian leaving the jail and walking up to Jennifer
and Diane Ballinger. He tells them that Della refuses to see him. She'll only
speak to John Ballinger. Inside the sheriff's office, Judge Franklin is
conferring with Ryker. Given the mood of the crowd and Della's past record,
the judge wants to have a trial as soon as possible. Ryker wants him to delay
it so he can have time to gather more evidence. The judge wants to get it over
with and tells him that Willard Arlington Rutledge, a local attorney known for
his theatrics has offered his services as prosecuting attorney. "Oh, that's fine,
that's good, Judge!" says Ryker sarcastically, "You've got a big crowd out there
now, you see. Now they'll come to see a theatrical...You can imagine the attention
Rutledge is going after! Judge, let's NOT have a formal trial now! Can't you
just hold a hearing? Let's see what evidence there is to try Della. In the hotel,
maybe, not the courtroom. That way we won't give Rutledge a chance to have one
of his circuses or..." "All right, Emmett, all right!" says the judge, "But it
looks to me like a waste of time!"
Ryker escorts the judge out of the sheriff's office where he walks through a crowd
that's already picking out a hanging tree. The Virginian walks up to Ryker and
asks about the current status. Ryker tells him of the plans for a hearing in the
hotel and that Della has been released in Ballinger's custody. "Why do you suppose
Krebs would have taken an interest in your dispute with Jenkins?" Ryker asks.
"Krebs did?" asks a surprised Virginian. "Yeah, according to Della," answers Ryker,
"Ever been to Gillette?" "I thought you were supposed to...," says the Virginian.
"I didn't make it over there," says Ryker, "Now I've got to stay here to testify
at the hearing. Come on inside."
Over at Ballinger's house, John tells Della that he has sent telegrams to attorneys
in other towns in hopes of finding one that will be willing to handle her defense.
She's surprised, because she assumed John would be doing it. He admits that he
botched her case the first time around because "he fell in love" with her. Now
he is afraid to tackle this case because he may wind up losing everything that he
has since achieved and tells her, "You can't trust your life to a man like me!"
Della is adamant, however, insisting that if she trusted him then, why not now?
She also asks rhetorically if another lawyer were to take her case and lose, would
that make it any easier on him? "No," he admits, coming to his senses, "You're
an extraordinary woman, Della. You've learned to be honest with yourself and that
is a great accomplishment!" He embraces her as Diane walks in.
Diane is horrified by this scene. She runs off to Shiloh and begs Jennifer to let
her stay there for the night. "My own father is in love with a murderess!" she cries.
Jennifer tells her she's acting just like the other people in town, confessing
that she felt the same way herself for a while. She tells her she can stay on two
conditions: that she listen to her "lecture" and that the two of them attend the
hearing together. "I thought you were my friend!" Diane whines, but seeing that
Jennifer is not going to budge, composes herself and asks "What kind of lecture?"
The following day, the scene shifts to the hotel dining room where Willard Rutledge
is dramatically making his opening remarks at the hearing; "This woman, this
infamous habitue of honky tonks, raised in squalor and schooled in depravity, dares
to challenge the sanctity of this august court by denying an act of violence which
only she could have committed! But with the aid of our merciful Lord and the
considered judgment of you who are fashioned in his image, the prosecution will
prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Della Saunders did willfully and deliberately
plunge a knife-like lethal weapon into the sainted body of your noble friend and
good neighbor, Alfred Krebs!" Judge Franklin pounds his gavel and tells Rutledge
that he's made his point and should get on with the case. "But I haven't quite
completed my opening remarks, your honor," Rutledge protests. "Oh, yes you have,
Willard!" the judge replies and calls the first witness, Billy Conklin, to the stand.
Billy sneeringly testifies that he saw Della go up to Krebs' room and then saw her
run out. He (Billy) then entered the room and found Krebs' dead body. Under
cross-examination, John Ballinger gets him to admit that he didn't hear any sounds
of a struggle while he was lurking outside the room and didn't actually see her
kill him. Ryker testifies and Rutledge is able to draw out him the fact that Della
had served time for murder. Ryker adds that Della told him that Krebs was
blackmailing her over this. Rutledge scoffs at such a notion and deftly changes
the subject by saying. "Well, apparently you had no doubts about her guilt, Sheriff.
Wasn't it you who formally charged Miss Saunders with murder?" Ryker hesitates
and answers, "Well, it wasn't exactly like that..." "Did you or did you not formally
charge the defendant with the crime of murder?" Rutledge screams. Ryker looks at
the Judge for guidance and admits that indeed he did. Ballinger cross-examines
and asks Ryker if he was satisfied with the evidence against Della. Despite
Rutledge's objection and the judge's admonishment to Ryker that he's "out of order,"
Ryker manages to get in that he was NOT satisfied with the evidence.
Sam Jenkins is next up. As Jenkins is making his way to the stand, the Virginian
enters the room and asks Ryker to step out into the lobby with him. The Shiloh
foreman has been investigating and has discovered that Chadwell is a respected
businessman "who doesn't want to get involved." Krebs used to go through Gillette
regularly and one time heard Chadwell complaining about a herd of sick cattle that
was "dying like flies." Krebs told him he might have a buyer for him "who wanted
them for the hides." He brought the man around and Chadwell sold them for $1800
cash. "You paid $8000 for the same herd," says Ryker, "Who's the man?" "Sam
Jenkins," says the Virginian.
Meanwhile, on the witness stand, Jenkins is glibly telling a fabricated story of
how Krebs, having recognized Della from a long time ago, told her that if anyone
was giving her trouble over her past to come see him and he'd take care of things
for her; "She said she WAS having trouble and she'd like to talk to him about a loan."
"He's lying. Every word's a lie," Della whispers to John Ballinger. Jenkins temporarily
becomes speechless when he sees Ryker and the Virginian return to the room and Ryker
go up and whisper something to Ballinger. He composes himself and completes his
testimony. On cross-examination, Ballinger tries to bring up his cattle transaction
with Chadwell, but Rutledge objects to the relevancy of this line of questioning and
the judge sustains his objection. As Jenkins is leaving the stand, Rutledge takes
Ballinger aside and tells him it would be easier on everyone concerned if Della
would just plead guilty. "You're forcing my hand, Ballinger," says Rutledge, "I am
prepared to cut you to little pieces!" John shakes his head and says, "I can't do
anything about that, either." Addressing the court, Rutledge says, "The prosecution
calls John Ballinger!"
As this is highly irregular, Judge Franklin summons Ballinger and Rutledge to the
bench. Rutledge says that John has "certain information which should be made
available to this august court." "It's a cheap theatrical trick!" snaps Ballinger.
The judge tells him he doesn't have to testify. John takes a long look at Della
and agrees to take the stand. The judge tells him that under the rules, he'll be
able to make a statement at the end of his testimony. Under Rutledge's cross
-examination, John admits that he had defended Della in a murder trial twelve
years earlier and had lost the case. Rutledge has a surprising ace up his sleeve
as he produces a St. Louis newspaper from that time and asks John to read the
headline. "I don't need to read it," says John, "It says 'Defense Attorney Admits
Bribe to Juror."
The onlookers are aghast. The judge gavels the hearing to order and John asks
him if he can make his statement now. Rutledge has no objection, so John addresses
the court. He tells the story of how he was a young attorney twelve years ago
who fell in love with his client. He believed in her innocence, but just to
ensure her acquittal, he approached a juror with a bribe. The juror reported
it and he was forced to withdraw from the case. "But during the retrial,
Della Saunders was punished for my crime!" he adds. She was convicted of
second-degree murder and sent to prison. He was fined and stripped of his
law license in that state. He moved elsewhere and tried to set up a practice
again, but somebody came along who remembered him from the Della Saunders
case. This happened again and again. "Finally, I came to Wyoming, received
my license to practice law and settled here in Medicine Bow" he says, "And
now I am face to face with my past once again. This time I don't bear the
burden of my mistake alone. My daughter will share the punishment and Della
Saunders faces another prison term. For the second time, this woman stands
to be punished for MY guilt! It was my crime, my mistake and I have paid
for that many times--but Della Saunders has paid more! And as long as
there is one man with a memory, she can expect to go on paying." Turning
to the judge, he says, "I submit that it should be the business of this
hearing not to extract further payment from Della Saunders, but to
uncover the true murderer of Alfred Krebs!"
Meanwhile, Jenkins has run out of the hotel. Ryker notices his absence
and goes after him. Jenkins steals a wagon and tries to get away, but
Ryker jumps on and the two have it out in the back of the wagon. Ryker
prevails and says, "You can't leave town like that, Jenkins! We've got
some unfinished business!" "He deserved it!" Jenkins replies, "He
needed killing for a long time! I never had the stomach for it before.
This way, I thought the woman would get the blame."
After everything has been settled, we see another stagecoach ride into
Medicine Bow. Della is closing up her shop for the last time and the Virginian
is helping carry her bags to the depot. John Ballinger approaches her
accompanied by Diane and Jennifer. "We wanted to ask you to stay," he says.
"Thank you for asking me," she answers, "I can't stay. This was a first
step for me. I didn't know that when I got here, but I know it now. It was
a good, important first step, believe that." "But you'll be all alone, Della,"
says John. Winking at Jennifer, Della says, "There are others who have followed
their stars. I'll meet them, talk to them, be honest with them." She boards
the stagecoach, bids a fond farewell all around and leaves. The Virginian says
to John, "She has a lot of courage...so have you, John." He replies, "Thank you,
but Della said it: 'We just couldn't run away--either of us.'" [rho]
A few scenes stand out: the one where Ryker is cornered in his office by the
indignant ladies of Medicine Bow demanding that Della Saunders be run out of
town; the scene where the Virginian scolds Jennifer for not riding into town
with him to pick up her dress; and the scene where the Virginian explains to
Ryker the results of his investigation into the original cattle deal between
Chadwell and Jenkins and the wry smile he gives knowing he's been had. Liam
Sullivan as John Ballinger gives a heartfelt summation of his past history
with Della and Tol Avery appropriately hams it up as the theatrical prosecuting
attorney, Willard Arlington Rutledge.
On the negative side, it's not too difficult to figure out who the real murderer
is after some obvious hints were dropped. The scene where Jenkins runs out of
the hotel and Ryker chases after him seems rather awkward and silly; not to
mention the fact that Jenkins gives him a pretty good fight, despite appearing
to be older and not in the greatest physical condition. [rho]
Guest Star Notes:
Sheree North can also be seen in 2.24 "Another's Footsteps."
This was the only appearance by Liam Sullivan in the series. [rho]
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